Comments on MACC officers lodge police report to deny torturing suspect

SHAH ALAM, Sept 9, 2009 – Five Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) officers, including Mohd Ashraf Mohd Yunus, the witness in the inquest into the death of political aide Teoh Beng Hock, lodged a report at the Shah Alam police headquarters here today.

Selangor MACC director Jaafar Mahad said the officers lodged the report at 4.30pm refuting the allegation that MACC officers' had used force during interrogation.

"We are refuting the allegation that we tortured the suspect. The statement made during the inquest proceedings was ill intent and meant to mar the reputation of the MACC," he told reporters after accompanying the officers to the police headquarters to lodge the report.

In the inquest proceedings earlier today, T. Sivanesan, a witness called by the lawyer representing Teoh's family, Gobind Singh Deo, claimed that he was tortured by MACC officers during interrogation.

Teoh, 30, was found dead on the fifth floor of Plaza Masalam on July 16, after giving statement to the Selangor MACC, located on the 14th floor of the same building. – Bernama

http://www.themalaysianinsider.net.my/index.php/malaysia/37306-five-macc-officers-lodge-police-report-to-deny-torturing-suspect


COMMENTS

The workforce of MACC does not comprise of only 5 MACC Officers. So the 5 MACC Officers are the good ones. Where are the other MACC Officers? Does it mean those who did not appear at the Police Station did torture the witnesses and compel them to disclose as much information as possible.

Secondly, why the Police did not investigate  Sivanesan's police report last year? Now of course the injuries on the body of Sivanesan had healed. But the medical report, photos of the injuries and the boldness to testify at the inquest speaks volumes. MACC has the losing battle to fight on.

Let's see what the common people think about MACC!


written by Leong Yook Kong, September 09, 2009

Why the 5 MACC offiers waited for such a long time to lodge police report to refute or counter the allegation made by the mysterious witness, Mr. T. Sivanesan? Correct me if I am wrong. I think the mysterious witness lodged the police report some where in September 2008. This is called "a tooth for a tooth". 

What Siva wanted to do is to seek justice for Teoh Beng Hock? That is the real reason, he volunteers to testify today. Siva, you are our hero. The question that strikes my mind is "Why the police did not investigate the report lodged by Siva ages ago"? If this had been done when the report was lodged, the story would had been totally different today. So, who will take the blame now? They asked for it.


written by focussed08, September 09, 2009

Hey, why only 5 officers lodge police reports. The whole department should lodge police reports to ensure a more thorough investigation could be initiated. 

The whole department should lodge police departments because those who had lodged police reports most probably do not have any recorded history of actually being involved in use of force against witnesses or suspects (unless identified by the witness) but others in the department might have a history of violence towards witnesses or suspects and dare not lodge any police reports. 

There is always something called peers pressure and once a "leader" starts using violence, the rest of his/her subordinates will be more inclined to follow suit in order to remain as an acceptable member of the group. Once violence is initiated, a feeding frenzy of violence will ensue as herd mentality takes over the group.

written by HJ Angus, September 10, 2009

Surely this is not the correct procedure. 
Otherwise anyone can lodge a police report to counteract any reported crime and there will be no use of the courts. 
If a police report has been made, the police should check out the facts of that report and if a false report had been lodged, action can be taken against the person.

Comments on Teoh family outraged at MACC chief's suicide theory

KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 7, 2009 – As the inquest into the death of a Selangor government political aide drags on with no clear end in sight, his grieving family’s frustration is fast turning into fury.

This is especially over the latest reported remarks made by the chief commissioner of the national anti-graft body, which many believe to have had a hand in pushing him over the edge.

The family of the late Teoh Beng Hock denounced the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission’s (MACC) Datuk Seri Ahmad Said Hamdan for publicly insinuating that the 30-year-old political secretary had committed suicide because he “could not withstand the pressure”.

Teoh’s younger sister, Lee Lan noted that Ahmad Said had told Chinese-language daily, Sin Chew Daily, earlier this month that he had been informed of 10 cases of people jumping from buildings after being investigated by Hong Kong’s Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) since its set-up.

The MACC, formed in January this year, was modelled after the ICAC.

“He also said that if people investigated could not withstand the pressure and jumped from the building, there was nothing that they (MACC) could do,” Lee Lan told The Malaysian Insider, repeating her statement to reporters last Saturday after saying prayers for her brother at the Seck Kia Eenh Temple in Malacca.

“If the MACC continues to make irresponsible remarks which cannot be substantiated with proof, we are prepared to go and see the Prime Minister again to urge him to immediately set up a comprehensive Royal Commission of Inquiry to investigate into Beng Hock’s cause of death,” she added, speaking for the rest of her family.

The family scored a meeting with Datuk Seri Najib Razak in his Putrajaya office on July 28.

“No stone will be left unturned in finding out the real cause of death and, if there is any foul play, action will definitely be taken,” the PM promised them then.

Lee Lan, who was the closest of three other siblings to Teoh, challenged Ahmad Said to answer three questions:

1. Who saw Beng Hock jump from [the] MACC building?

2. Beng Hock was classified as a witness in the investigation, what pressure would he have faced?

3. Will MACC’s interrogation method bring about pressure on the witness or suspect to cause them to jump to death?

Teoh was found dead outside the MACC’s Selangor office in Plaza Masalam, Shah Alam on July 16, the same day he was to register his marriage to his pregnant sweetheart.

He had been interrogated overnight by MACC investigators probing claims that his boss, first-term Selangor DAP state lawmaker and executive councillor Ean Yong Hian Wah, had unlawfully dipped his fingers into state funds.

The inquest will resume tomorrow after a one week break.

Source: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/37113-teoh-family-outraged-at-macc-chiefs-suicide-theory

Tsu Koon tells MACC chief to be more sensitive

Ahmad Said was quoted to have said that in the history of the Independent Commission for Anti-Corruption (ICAC) of Hong Kong, there were a total of 11 suicides of suspects and that there was nothing that the ICAC could do about it.

“Although this may have been a statement of fact with respect to the ICAC, an open comment by the MACC Chief at this juncture when the inquest is on-going could be construed and perceived as suggesting that suicide might have been the cause of Teoh’s death, while the inquest has not come to any conclusive judgment,” said Koh

Ahmad Said was quoted to have said that in the history of the Independent Commission for Anti-Corruption (ICAC) of Hong Kong, there were a total of 11 suicides of suspects and that there was nothing that the ICAC could do about it.

“Although this may have been a statement of fact with respect to the ICAC, an open comment by the MACC Chief at this juncture when the inquest is on-going could be construed and perceived as suggesting that suicide might have been the cause of Teoh’s death, while the inquest has not come to any conclusive judgment,” said Tan Sri Koh Tsu Koon.

COMMENTS:

I would like MACC to elaborate on these few questions and see if the number of death under ICAC is conclusive for the death of Teoh Beng Hock!

How was the method of interrogation of HK's ICAC similar to MACC? MACC Officer Mohd Ashraf Mohd Yunus had testified there was only an interview and not interrogation. So what pressure was Ahmad Said talking about?

Knowing that there were 10 suicide cases of death under ICAC because of "pressure" from investigation, why MACC did not take precaution to safeguard the safety of Teoh Beng Hock until he left the premises???

Out of the 10 cases of death under HK's ICAC, how many cases were death at the building of ICAC and it covers the span of how many years to produce the statistic of 10 suicide cases?

How old is MACC to produce 1 death in custody of MACC?

Why there were 1 known DNA of "Male 1" on the belt of Teoh Beng Hock which has not yet been identified?

I highly suspect the DNA sampling of MACC Officers could be "switched" or "replaced" with other unknown people during the transit to the chemist lab. I strongly suggest to call for international DNA experts to extract the DNA sample from all the MACC Officers one more time in the presence of the lawyers for both parties of Teoh's family and MACC. The mystery letter still contains sufficient evidence to investigate further by independent Commission of Inquiry.

Comments on Teoh family outraged at MACC chief's suicide theory

KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 7 – As the inquest into the death of a Selangor government political aide drags on with no clear end in sight, his grieving family's frustration is fast turning into fury.

This is especially over the latest reported remarks made by the chief commissioner of the national anti-graft body, which many believe to have had a hand in pushing him over the edge.

The family of the late Teoh Beng Hock denounced the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission's (MACC) Datuk Seri Ahmad Said Hamdan for publicly insinuating that the 30-year-old political secretary had committed suicide because he "could not withstand the pressure".

Teoh's younger sister, Lee Lan noted that Ahmad Said had told Chinese-language daily, Sin Chew Daily, earlier this month that he had been informed of 10 cases of people jumping from buildings after being investigated by Hong Kong's Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) since its set-up.

The MACC, formed in January this year, was modelled after the ICAC.

"He also said that if people investigated could not withstand the pressure and jumped from the building, there was nothing that they (MACC) could do," Lee Lan told The Malaysian Insider, repeating her statement to reporters last Saturday after saying prayers for her brother at the Seck Kia Eenh Temple in Malacca.

"If the MACC continues to make irresponsible remarks which cannot be substantiated with proof, we are prepared to go and see the Prime Minister again to urge him to immediately set up a comprehensive Royal Commission of Inquiry to investigate into Beng Hock's cause of death," she added, speaking for the rest of her family.

The family scored a meeting with Datuk Seri Najib Razak in his Putrajaya office on July 28.

"No stone will be left unturned in finding out the real cause of death and, if there is any foul play, action will definitely be taken," the PM promised them then.

Lee Lan, who was the closest of three other siblings to Teoh, challenged Ahmad Said to answer three questions:

1.      Who saw Beng Hock jump from [the] MACC building?

2.      Beng Hock was classified as a witness in the investigation, what pressure would he have faced?

3.      Will MACC's interrogation method bring about pressure on the witness or suspect to cause them to jump to death?

Teoh was found dead outside the MACC's Selangor office in Plaza Masalam, Shah Alam on July 16, the same day he was to register his marriage to his pregnant sweetheart.

He had been interrogated overnight by MACC investigators probing claims that his boss, first-term Selangor DAP state lawmaker and executive councillor Ean Yong Hian Wah, had unlawfully dipped his fingers into state funds.

The inquest will resume tomorrow after a one week break.

Source: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/37113-teoh-family-outraged-at-macc-chiefs-suicide-theory

Tsu Koon tells MACC chief to be more sensitive

Ahmad Said was quoted to have said that in the history of the Independent Commission for Anti-Corruption (ICAC) of Hong Kong, there were a total of 11 suicides of suspects and that there was nothing that the ICAC could do about it.

"Although this may have been a statement of fact with respect to the ICAC, an open comment by the MACC Chief at this juncture when the inquest is on-going could be construed and perceived as suggesting that suicide might have been the cause of Teoh's death, while the inquest has not come to any conclusive judgment," said Koh

Ahmad Said was quoted to have said that in the history of the Independent Commission for Anti-Corruption (ICAC) of Hong Kong, there were a total of 11 suicides of suspects and that there was nothing that the ICAC could do about it.

"Although this may have been a statement of fact with respect to the ICAC, an open comment by the MACC Chief at this juncture when the inquest is on-going could be construed and perceived as suggesting that suicide might have been the cause of Teoh's death, while the inquest has not come to any conclusive judgment," said Tan Sri Koh Tsu Koon.

COMMENTS:

I would like MACC to elaborate on these few questions and see if the number of death under ICAC is conclusive for the death of Teoh Beng Hock!

How was the method of interrogation of HK's ICAC similar to MACC? MACC Officer Mohd Ashraf Mohd Yunus had testified there was only an interview and not interrogation. So what pressure was Ahmad Said talking about?

Knowing that there were 10 suicide cases of death under ICAC because of "pressure" from investigation, why MACC did not take precaution to safeguard the safety of Teoh Beng Hock until he left the premises???

Out of the 10 cases of death under HK's ICAC, how many cases were death at the building of ICAC and it covers the span of how many years to produce the statistic of 10 suicide cases?

How old is MACC to produce 1 death in custody of MACC?

Why there were 1 known DNA of "Male 1" on the belt of Teoh Beng Hock which has not yet been identified?

I highly suspect the DNA sampling of MACC Officers could be "switched" or "replaced" with other unknown people during the transit to the chemist lab. I strongly suggest to call for international DNA experts to extract the DNA sample from all the MACC Officers one more time in the presence of the lawyers for both parties of Teoh's family and MACC. The mystery letter still contains sufficient evidence to investigate further by independent Commission of Inquiry.